thanx techy...

seems 300 or less still packs the magic "800ft/lbs" or some say 1000ft/lbs is needed..so thats 200 or less..with a 60gr pill.

id honestly have no problem taking a 300yd shot with my rifle given the right shot and rangefinder and click chart in my hand. but its also the rifle i shoot the most and am most confident in. crank the leupold upto 18x and click in the distance and place the bullet where i want it to go. wish i woulda counted the number of groundhogs i head shot on purpose this summer...200 and less was always a head shot unless i was shooting freehand. 200+ id shoot the vitals...wish i kept track of my misses..though there honestly wasnt many to count..and when i did miss it was hairs away because i forgot the range finder or jerked the factory trigger...if next bow season dont produce, i will be shootin the 250 when im on stand..the right bullet and right shot is what matters...

i know groundhogs aint deer...but hitting a 3-4" groundhead head consistantly at 200yds makes the 8" deer vitals look huge..