I didn't think I was letting the cat out of the bag by asking about the monster quotient, thats why I asked. Never having hunted deer anywhere but where I live and seeing the walking coat racks that they constantly shoot and pass up drives me nuts. How is the hunting land situation? Here its all private land and you have to have permission to hunt anywhere. This means a lot of door knocking and a lot of groveling, very dis-heartening. When You get a spot around here, you do whatever you have to, to keep it. Is it the same in these other states?