These were all little once upon a time. We didn't even get some of the real big boyz. There is still a few monsters that we were hintin runin around. The buck I was hunting looks just like the one I shot only 3 inches taller on all tines, about 20 inches wide, and really heavy. Buck my buddy with the big 8 has seen is a ten about 24 inches wide, bases like pop cans, and g2s and 3s about 14 inches long. He's a beast.There is afew other good bucks runnin around that I hope to see next year as well. WCL