Thanks for the advice. I have got to go out and get some SST' s for my .308. They sound like a good choice for me. The BT' s do an outstanding job in the factory loads by Remington but I love to experiment. Now Hornady has a new bonded-core tipped bullet that sounds even better than the old style. It' s getting to be more like the electronics industry, something new every year just to get you to let go of more pocket money, but hey, don' t ya love it!