I hunt souther Erie county and on the 27th of October the bucks were grunting and chasing doe all day long. I had 6 bucks within 20 yards of my stand all chasing doe. I harvested my buck at 6:15 pm on that day. Since then i have been filming for family and friends and have seen no such sign. I am going out tommorow to film for a friend, hopefully they will be on the move. Last week i filmed a 14 pointer but he only came within 60 yards. I would love to see him again.