[/quote] Its tough but thats bow hunting! I haven't been lucky enough myself to get an elk yet but my dadand alot of his recurve, long bow, andcompoundbuddies did it many times while hunting inthe mountains. They have shot in the neighborhood of 15 cow and bull elk together as a groupin Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, Idaho, Montana! Not one shot was over twenty yards! It can be done, a person has just got to work there tail off and sooner or later it all pays off in the end!