Hehe, poor Jim freezing his buttox off. No pain no gain, I had to get out so you are tougher tham I am lol, I have to go to my sister in-laws Engagement party. I saw another massive buck this morning, he would not come to rattling, grunt, bleats, nada. That was all I saw all morning. Yesterday and today were suppossed to be the 2 best days of the year to hunt according to a MD biologist, I saw more action the morning of Sept 15th than I did on Nov 9 and 10th morning and evening hunts put togethertogether,who would have thunk it???? Moved a stand to a new location, hoping for some closer shots to a highly travelled lane coming from a bedding thicket. Im not sure what the heck is going on, this has to be one of the screwiest ruts Ive ever seen.