I love them.. I have Marlins 39a,30/30 2-35's, 356,45/70,450..Browning 308, savage 300.. winchesters 94 22mag, 2- pre 64 30/30's, pre 64 32, big bores 307,356,375..45lc Winchester 2-71's in 348 .. I think thats it .. I will use the 450 with a 3x9 this season.