Slee...depend's on our winter....last year ya could'nt get up there till about 10 day's before the season started...Kris and myself found quit afew bird's up there early in the season about 2 year's ago....last year we were up there opening week....and did'nt find much....I give ya an update the closer it get's....I generally try to get up there scouting 2-3 week's before opening