Everybody has their opinion, but mine is that this call is a very good one. I have called in a lot of bucks with it even in early to mid October. I called in the buck I shot this year with it. He even came off of his does to investigate. Although timing did have a lot to do with it I do not think any other call would have worked as well as the Buck Roar, because I switched from the young buck grunt to the mature buck grunt to get him in while I also added in a little snort wheeze.