I like to put my pin on a deer or elk and only see a hole open up and no arrow sticking out. I get this with my set up. I have shot heavy arrows out of recurves and compounds and taken lot of game and didn't get this all the time like I doing now,so I will stay with what Im shooting. I have had a couple of times I hit shoulder blades, but I'm a good shot and it dosn't happen much, but the times it did the light carbon shot through the paddle bone once with a complet pass though at about 30 yards and once with all the arrow going through but about 4 inch that broke off inside the buck a 300 lb + Iowa buck when he took off running. Shot him at about 10 yards. Once a shot a 140 incher at 30 yards along a high ditch passed through him and I seen a small 6 point run up and was standing on the other side of the ditch with my arrow stuck out of him just below his neck on the inside of his shoulder . I tought what the $%^ because I see just seen the big one drop. When I shot the 140 inch I didn't know there was a small buck standing in the bottom of the ditch about 10 yards down were I couldn't see him and when my arrow passed through the 140 incher it hit the small buck and got about 10 to 12 inch penetratoin on the small buck, so I had a friend use his tag on the small buck when we found him. Thing like this way I believe in the carbons, good poundage and fast hard shooting bows. I have tryed some different broadheads and didn't get what I want in a penetration and went back to my old set up. When the newer carbon like the Gold tip came out I think I lost some penetration, but now we have arrow like the axis thicker walls and small around and penetration is great on the five deer I have taken with them so far. Easton staff and I taked about this years ago at a archery show and they were saying the same thing I have and now they have the axis arrow and what are they saying about it

Put them down