Woods, thanks for once again for your honest opinion. That is too bad about the Zeiss, I was really thinking hard about picking up one. I think I ' ll stick with what I have for now...thanks again. BTW my (2) 4200 Elite' s have been pretty solid, they don' t seem to track as true as my Loopy or Burris, but pretty good. Decent glass quality and POI has always held true in my case. Hope you find the same when you get yours.

Are you returning the " Bad" Zeiss?

Here' s a tidbit, Burris has been recently bought by Berretta. Not sure if that is good or bad, but thought I would pass it on.