Stay after it. Your chance will come. I am always bummed out the month of October, because the place I hunt the most with the quality bucks is only the month of November. I lost that big 8at mid Oct. that really got me down, sostay in the woods! We said we had a great team from the start and we have proved it. The team with "No Name" is hot! We need to keep that hot streak going. Here is a 2 and half year old 8 I took some video of this past Saturday. He is going to be a nice deer in two more years.