The 5 point I just shot Tuesday was at 35 yards and I am only pulling 62 lbs at the string. I use Muzzy broad heads and I got complet pass thru ( both lungs ). I think my arrow is in China because I still never found it. The deer went 35 to 40 yards and I watched him drop. On the other hand, I hit one a couple of years ago in the shoulder blade and got almost no penitration and never found the deer or my arrow.