For a hang on, I really like the Loggy Bayou stands. They have a nice comfortable seat for those long waits. For a climber, you just can't beat something in the summit line. Quick and easy attachment to the tree and solid when you get to the top. I have both a Viper and a Cobra. If you are looking for one to hunt both gun and bow season, I would give the thumbs up to the Viper.