Skeeter - I couldnt get the 240XTP' s to shoot worth a hoot in my Rem 700ML. The barnes shoot considerably better groups and none of the deer Ive shot with them have complained. I have to admit Im a newbie to MZ' s though and didnt experiment much, just stuck 2 pyrodex 50 pellets down the tube and tried a handfull of bullets to see which worked. I dont shoot MZ recreationally, just for hunting so bullet cost wasnt much of a factor. I picked up an Encore 50 today so I will retry the 240XTP which the encore is supposed to like. If I can get twice the bullets for less money, and get them to shoot well, thats what I' ll shoot. The Barnes shot well in my cousins Knight, but I think that was all he tried. His last name happens to be Barnes, so guess what he picks up first.