I know there is deer where I hunt. People get them all the time, there's plenty of tracks most anywhere I go. I always stay within site of water or at least within site of the treeline ending near water. There are swampy sections in the back. I try to hunt the back since everyone at the public piece goes right up front, maybe they'll drive one back to me. I'm not good enough yet to tell where they are bedding, I don't know where their feeding either. There's acorns everywhere. I have found a few significant rubs that I think would be a good spot for my stand. I cant afford all of the SCENT-LOCK gear and other "high Tech" hunting stuff, but I do spray gear and bow/gun with scent removal spray and occasionally drag a wick of tinks on my shoelace. I'm seeing deer, never more than one at a time, and never within a good shot. Maybe I need to read up some more. I'm doing this on my own by the way and just reading mags and every post on this site. This year has to be the one! Muzzleloader opens saturday, so we will see what happens.