My comments were only about Shabonna and not public land in general.I think if you hunt public land it needs to be big enough that you can use the movements of other hunters to your advantage or big enough where other hunters are not a factor at all.Shabbonas' archery area is too small for the number of hunters that use it and too confined and the deer just move over to the parts of the park that you can't hunt.I've pushed those deer back and forth from the creek /camground end and the dam end and they won't leave the no hunting area.The will just keep doubling back.I wasn't hunting while doing this,just hiking around with a camera.Lowden Miller would be a good example of public land that is big enough to use other hunters movements.If you look at everybodies stands,most are not far off a trail.There are quite a few good places to set up that the deer use to go around the heavily hunted areas.I hate crowds.I would rather hunt on private property when ever I can.The only real good public spot I like is the Necedah Wildlife Refuge/Meadow Valley Area in Wisconsin.Non-resident tags are expensive(ridiculous) but what a beautiful bow hunting area.Thousands of acres to wander around on.