Well tonight i got in my stand at 4 and on the way i seen a doe and 3 fawns... i was sitting in my stand for about 20 minutes and i rattled and grunted, 7 minutes later about a 200 pound 10 or 12 pointer walked on the ridge looking down for a buck oradoe... nothing was there so he just turned around and went off in the distance.. so there i sat for another hour and the doe and 3 fawns came in and about 20 minutes later here comes a decent looking 6 pointer, we called him the 4 lifes buck... my dad shot at him 4 times before and he misseed all four. tonight it walked by me and it was walking to my dads stand and i was at full draw but i decided to let him take it ( he's never shotten a deer with his bow for 6 years.. he quit bowhunting so i could use his bow) about 10 minutes later i hear a loud pow, he missed and hit a tree, that put him to 5 misses on that buck.. then 2 minutes later he came back to my dad and he finally hit it, it ran 110 yards and died right on my trail leaving my stand.. I think i was more happy than he was.. we called it the father and son buck since we were both after it all year... Good luck to the rest of you