well guys wish me luck. went out to hang another setup and well i found a monster that i didnt even know was out there. this guy is a brute he has at least a 16 inch inside spread and has 10 pts as far as i could tell. im guessing he would score 130-140s. i didnt spook him he just walked out of the field and down inthe hollow. will be in the tree early in the morning to try to put an arrow in him. good luck guys.