Like Dave said, I too shoot a lot and I use the word a lot, cause nobody shoots ML's as much as Dave, so i do expect groups @ better than 3" - and I use that word expect for a reason - and to be honest most of the time I do and can achieve groups from on average of 1.5" (with a scope). I am also one of those guys that you orginally mentioned that if I could not I probably would not have the gun. All of the rifles I have, including the centerfires, I have all the confidence in the world in for shooting an animal with in a hunting situation. Now then if i were shooting targets all day everyday - shooting for sub MOA's I am not sure that I have a gun that I could claim.... Oh! I do! a Sako bull-barrel 222 and a Savage bull-barrel .17 now those with the scopes that they have and a non-windy day and the proper bench... or in all the others reduce the charge down to become target shooters.... Well anyway - the real important thing in my mind - Do YOU know the limitations of your gun - then do you know the limitations of YOU and YOUR gun.

I found your orginal post very intersesting and very direct - thanks for putting it out there...

Keep shooting ML's because they truly are a blast - addictive - fun - challenging - frustrating - and all of the other things you can add on.