That is probably what I am going to have to hunt with then, since I wasted all my extra ammo money on those Nosler Ballistic tips lol. I will waite to use the 1894 for that type of hunting till after I throw some peep sites on it and get it grouping descently out to 100 yards. At least with the .270 I am confident in being able to hit where I am aiming out to about 200 yards.