Our season opens the day after Christmas so there is plenty of time to get my Gold Dots and I think I can get some Swiss powder from a local gunstore. I have always used Goex but Swiss is supposed to give another 100-170 f.p.s. from the same charge load. My guns max. is 120 grains of 2f and 110 grains of 3f. I would not push it beyond that.

I took the load velocities and ran them through the Hornday's website ballistic calculator and another 150 f.p.s. really makes a difference in energy at 100 yards when you consider the difference between 1500 and 1650 f.p.s. A duplexed load of 777 would probably light off as well but I prefer to stay with real black. The 300 grain bullet really provides the best ballistics at these speeds on paper and as I have said; it worked well for Chap. Thanks for all the information on the Gold Dots. This really has been a great thread. I am leaning toward the 300 grain for this season but I intend to buy a box of 250's as well. I only hope they produce the accuracy that the Hornady's do. I can get under 2" most days at 100 with them although the Gold Dot's should be able to keep em under 3" or so with no problem. Plenty good enough for me.