I have a question on this topic.I use a 4in.Doinker for hunting and practice for it but see the target strictly guys using those long stabilizers and being on the cheap side,was wondering why not just use a piece of all thread rod(right size thread of course)that you could get at the hardware store for about 3$ for a 3ft. Has any other cheapskates tried this,is it not a good idea because of vibration problems,etc. and could any bow damage occur because of it?this is an idea for league target shooting only not hunting and I really dont want to spend an arm and an ear on one for just that. If your laughing reading this,keep in mind,some of us are driving an 1980 Ford Pinto still.[&o] Well,maybe just me.Hey,get that match away from my car kid.[]