i don't have quite the giants u guys are talkin about but there is a 18 point he is just a monster my cousin has him on VIDEO . my uncle shot a 15 pt. i was lookin for but there is about a 155" 12 i have seen him 2 times 1 time he was only 5 yds. away from my stand i was just in my other one about 100 yds. away [:@] there is a wide 8 i would like 2 c also!!!!!