I'm glad you said that. I deliberately left that out of my original post. My buddy said even the doe was pretty small, and he felt like it was last years fawn.....I wanted to see if someone brought this up.

This is an interesting discussion, actually. I can tell you that this particular farm definetly has an out of balance herd, favoring the does. BUT, for the last 3 years, there have been no less than 8 does taken off the property each year. I can think of 24 or 5 does that have been taken off that property in the last 3 years.

It is beginning to show.....Last year, we hunted the first 5 days of November and I saw more bucks than we normally see. They were young, with only 1 being at least 2 1/2.....BUT, I saw 5 bucks that week and only 8 does...