thanks guys. as for the hit I know that it was right behind the shoulder. but with the angle I may have completely missed the vitals. The shot looked picture perfect but the vitals are much smaller on a fawn than a big mature doe, which Im beginning to think I just hit a good vain or something. Like I said though, after about 100 to 120yds on the trail we starting seeing stomach matter. I was shocked and didnt believe it, so I stuck my finger in it and smelled it. YUP its guts. I did hear it crash and started on the trail within about 25 mins I think. After kicking her up I waited about 1 1/2, the blood was still very good so I thought that 1 1/2 hrs would be more than enough. I would have put in new batterys and looked more but the deer went into some grass and lots of underbrush. I figured it'd be best to wait til morning. Plus we couldnt find anymore blood after the deer crossed the highway, it looked like it literally laid down in the middle of the road. There was a huge puddle and then a couple drops to the other side, then nothing. Thanks again guys, Ill let you know if there was anything left of her tomarrow. We have a pretty good pack of 'yotes that'll be thinned down once trapping season opens Nov 1st.