cascadedad
Again, you kind of compaired centerfire to MLer. NOT FAIR. How many big conical shooter - repeaters are there out there??? Your logic ain't makin sense.
Has nothing to do with it - one shot for my life i am taking a real bullet with equal amount of energy to a chuck of lead - because the real bullet will do more damage faster... Weight does not matter velocity and energy do... guess you missed that episode of myth busters...
I would shoot at a CLOSE moving animal if the conditions were perfect, but if one is far away like the shots you are talking about, 100-200 yards, my personal belief is that if the animal is moving, it is just not a high percentage shot.
For you if you believe that - that is the way it should be - but for me it is not - I can make that shot over and over without a lot of thought... do not hold me to your standards as i do not hold you to mine. There are differences - ask your brother or is your nephew - can not remember for sure.
Just say you shoot a 1" group at 150 yards off of a bench. What can you shoot offhand? Let's say you shoot a 3" group. What does that group open up to when the target is moving? Now at 100 or about 160 yards and above, you haveto add 3" morebecause that is what you have done with your point blank range numbers. You said you have to just shoot, so no time to factor in those 3" toyour shot. It makes sense to me that unless the shooter is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT, EVERY TIME, he should not take those shots at a moving target. Maybe you are perfect, but I am not.
I am not perfect but I am dam good with a rifle - but again the mistake is reduced with a bullet with a better trajectory and greater velocity. I go back to last years toe-head - there was no hestation in my mind at a 180 yard offhand shot at walking deer quartering to me... I had the bullet, the gun, and my abilities - It was a done deal... I realize I am getting older but I am still good at what I do when it comes to shooting a breakable/killable target - I admit I use to be better.
This ought to set you off a little more also... it is actually easier for me to shoot a moving target than it is a stationary target. I am much more confidient in the movement of the gun than trying to hold it on a definite spot for an extended period. Remember i do not shoot groups hunting - I shoot one shot.
i am grumpy... because some of you guys can not see the nose in front of your face and still believe what you hear instead of looking at the numbers. The conical is an old bullet that has been surpassed... the perfromance of the bullet is what should be judged not the hole size or even for that matter the amount of energy whether is it is in a ML or a Smokeless gun. All lead - especially soft lead bullets do not perform as well as a modern bullet... if they did there would be no discussion...
Question and I know this is off the board.... but do you kill tanks with a 50 cal regular bullet or a 50 cal soft lead conical?
Humor me, what is the heaviest 50cal conical you can shoot from your White, because they are the best conical shooter..? What would you estimate yourvelocity might be?