I have to get in here just a little. I have only shot a few elk and they were all cows as I cannot get drawn for a bull it seems. I am a meat hunter anyway so no problem. The first cow I shot with a 348gr. powerbelt that went through the animal including the center of the heart sideways (due to some real mistakes on my part in selecting powder) and stopped in the farside skin. She walked slowly about 30 yards and dropped over. I consider that a conical hit as the plastic tip was still in the bullet. I shot the last one with a 300gr. SST double lung shot passthough and after she saw me and bolted I shot again (running full out at about 80 yards) and hit the lung and part of the liver. That was a 295gr. Powerbelt that also passed completely through. She managed to go another 1/4 mile where I had to head shoot her to put her on the ground. I am now considering using big conicals as the small fast ones don't seem to drop them fast enough. I only hunt ranges up to 100-150 yards so the flat shooting is not very important. The powder charge was 90gr. Black Mag'3 out of an Omega. First one was a T/C Scout with 90gr. Goex ClearShot (reason for the keyhole).