I feel that neither is ethical myself. But yet, should you choose do them I will not call you a complete idiot. In the end, neither applies to gutting or skinning a deer after you kill it.

We don't have 7-11s, but it's been done many times at the Pantry or Food Lion, just not by me.The "If it's brown it's down" crowd hangs the legs through the cable supports on either side of the tailgate withthe deer laying on it whiledriving down the road to show it off. Is it necessary to put a dead animal in everyone's elses face? No, and I don't support it.

I notice you pull from context only part of thequote. Why is that? I made sure I said that the "traditions" of some hunters are things that I consider disrepectful. But, you didn't see me call them names or criticize them for doing it. Why is that? Because it's part of their experience that they may need to fully enjoy the hunt. I don't need these things. Nor do I need to cut around the anus, pinch it off, split the gut, reach up inside and cut the windpipe, drag out guys and bury them, hang a deer and skin it.....I don't need those, and there are others who don't either.

If you really want a list of complete idiots, I'll be more than happy to send you one. But, I'd be willing to bet a few of them would hit you or others on here right on the mark, as well I may be on someone else's list. But, nothing gets accomplished when A criticizes B. Would I ever pay thousands of dollars to go on a hunt with an outfitter? I don't think so. I fact, if I can't find it and kill it myself I don't see the point in bothering. But, you won't hear me calling someone else a name for doing so. Put the efforts and concerns to better uses such as ethical kills, smart shots and helping others harvest an animal, rather than worrying about what they do between the shot and the table.