I picked up the Vail Tree Farm map and the latest topo map they had. I didn' t realize just how many roads there were coming into the Johnson Creek area. I' ve hunted in there for 2 years now, and haven' t seen a 1/4 of the roads in that area. I' ll try to draw the main ones in on my topo, then laminate it. Then when I make scouting trips, I can mark on my topo with a grease pencil where I find sign. I appreciate all of the info. That was my first trip to the Metsker Maps store. That place is pretty cool, and I think they have pretty much any map for places in WA. Thanks again to everybody.