Try the maxiballs and if your groups are not that good use a wad between the powder and maxiball. I used to shoot a wad my grandafather made and man I tell you it was night and day how much more accurate it was. He made a tool to cut the a wad out of the foam plates. This worked really well and they really penetrated well. I bet the maxi hunters would work the same with the wad. Good Luck!!!

River Rat