Ya Ya FRALEY it is our secret. I don't really like to hunt afternoons too much even though that is when I saw the biggest buck ever from a treestand 200"er about 40 yards away. He walked in behind a doe and she laid down around 25 yards from my tree. Thinking I would get a chance at the brute I tried some really soft grunting but he didn't seem to care at all. Well the doe laid for 30 minutes and then walked right under my tree that is when my hopes raised, well the big fella got up and started my way when all the sudden the doe got downwind and busted me. Ran right back under my tree and stopped 20 yards out trying to figure out what the heck was going on, the buck then decided it was not cool and chased her off directly away from me. Saw the same buck that morning but never came close to him again, someone wounded him during muzzleloader and was never seen again. Sure wish I woulda took the shot I had that a.m. but wasn't sure about the distance so I had to let him walk[:'(].