Slee, the stuff you describe sure sounds better than the stuff I had invisioned, and the stuff I was hunting! But I did find turkey turds, in the really thick stuff. I wonder if they winter there,or ride out bad winter storms, and are now moving to more open areas for the spring and summer? Question after question from me, I'll give you all a free autographed copy of the book I'll write, when I have answers to all these turkey question!!!!!! Slee have you ever harvestd a turkey from the west side of the state???