The best thing about these debates is everyone likes different bikes. It makes for alot better ride when everyone is on a different kind of bike. There is always someone kicking #!! and someone getting their #!! kicked. I don' t mind being on one end of the equation as long as I can get on the other.

PS If anybody gets around Western Washington and wants to go for a ride let me know I have hundreds of miles of trails in my back yard and we are always looking for fresh meat