Thanks John for the words. I am like you and know when to stay in a stand and when you can get out. I would also think that not even a hunter on his first hunt would not run up to a dying deer and film that, I surely would not. I alsosaid over there I think, that more deer was right behind this one so I had to stay not only cause I know I needed to, but for dad since we are hunting the same trail, but he is farther away. They locked it for my friends coming in to help, but also they knew they where on the stupid end of the stick and where starting to look bad.