Quicksilver, that is hysterical! I am from SE PA and I can tell you about 9 out of 10 hunters are that way here. It embarassing sometimes to be grouped into that class when you say your a PA hunter. Especially when your family prides itself on hunting ethically. Sometimes I just tell myself they all aren't that way, there are other "Real" hunters in PA. Pisses me off though when I hear 30/30 and 7mm's going off at 1AM. Hopefully the real PA hunterscan turnPA's reputation around!