ok i will try gripping the bow with my index and middle finger and bring my arm up, i cant get the release any shorter, and i asked the guy at the proshop last time a went a few weeks ago and he said it cant be anyshorter, but even though it is alittle long it is comfortable to shoot. i will post a pic later tonite right now i am someones house, i will try at around 9 ish i should be home. thanks for the help.