I agree with loogout.

Look at it this way, TFOX.....

When you range from an elevated perch.....do you range from the actual distance from your perch to the target.....OR...do you range the horizontal distance?

My opinion......60' up (and the hypthetical is absurd, I know.....but, to me, it proves a point)....and 30yds out....if you use your 30yd pin...you'll hit high. Gravity is helping you.

The entire point of that was.....you don't get the advantage of the "arch" to help in visualizing your arrow impact your quarry.....when you're in an elevated perch and shooting short distances.

That was all.....

Good discussion......thanks.