i guess location comes into play also. i mean, im sort of in same situation. i see deer tracks, sign and all, i have had a experienced hunter tell me that where im sitting, he has seen a ton of deer in the past - which was very kind of him. i get up early, drive the 1/2 hour, haul up a climber, and sit still. and i havent really seen any deer either. im blaiming it on the heat now lol, but when its colder, i dont know what to do if i dont see deer. i could see if I, or you, was in a spot that had no sign and you hadnt seen deer in there before, but i see trails and all and a person who has killed many deer on this public land has told me basically exactly where he saw them (b.c now he has private land). i duhno bud but i do feel you. and right now i just want a few does for the freezer, but cant seem to get that either. good luck to you and i hope it starts to turn around for ou as well as me.