Ok....now I have two additional questions...1) As far as "sinching" the seat up, is that comfortable??? I looked at the viper stand and thought that keeping that bar WOULD be the perfect bow rest; however, I don't want to sacrifice comfort too much....and 2) how much room is there on the Razor if you keep the bar up and use it like the viper if needed?? I am leaning toward the Razor and a bow holder at this point.