I agree with Ky Turkey Hunter...it is hard to beat the Remington 870. I have the 870 SPS-T with thumbhole and it is probably the most comfortable gun I have ever held. They make it in an automatic as well, however, I wanted a pump instead of an automatic for turkey hunting. Absolutely awesome, awesome turkey hunting gun and it comes with bright fiber-optic adjustable open sights. I had the Mossburg 835 UltiMag and I didn't like it near as much as I do this 870.