Friend has 10x42 Ultravids-hard to beat this glass. I bought my Zeiss T*FL from cameralandny and they have a good deal on Leicas too. You can get new 10x42 for $1700. Talk to Doug-he is a nice guy and shipped my binos on time and as described.
here is a link
http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/site.pl?page=40262