well I decided to go with a used bow for less money to start out with. Got a bowtech 03 patriot came with limb savers, string leaches, camo whisker biscuit, cheap stabelizer, no sight. he kept the sight for his new bow. everything is in mint shape. already set to my draw lenght and to 70 lbs. Got it for 280.00. Now just got to firgue a good sight, get a better stabelizer and go with the hostage rest. Well thanks for the help guys.