Thanks for the replies so far. I don't really get away to shoot more than 4 times a year so the cost/pain won't really hit me that hard(i hope). The .405 i've found on the internet is actually one of the cheaper large calibers i've found($50.00/20). The only cheaper one i've found is 45/70 ($35.00/20).Im more worried about notbeing able to find .405 as it seemslike itsnot that popular. Im heading out to some local guns stores to check the stock they cary.