thanx for the replys..i will get some mosquito and black gnat patterns for or spring trips..but when its cold i dont think they will work to good..way to cold for any mosquito or gnat..around the end of april i start seeing them..and thats when i do alot of fishing...what size wolleybuggers and colors do you recomend for small brookies 10-12 inches big?? thanx alot