I didn' t get any responce on the 56" hunter so I thought I would try again. I am looking at the 58" hunter and the 56" hunter. I had a firebird and the hunter II and they were good bows but I don' t care for the high wrist grip. Are the hunter and 56" hunter more of a medium grip or the same as the hunter II. I thought the firebird and hunter II were a little loud, especilly the firebird, and took some time to quiet down. I am looking at either or both of these bows or going with....well....well a custom grip Black Widow SA III which will cost 3 times as much as a Chek Mate. I have 2 Assenheimer 60" takedowns right now and think they have the best grip I have ever used and are super quiet but I like to shoot between 45-50 at about 27" , and could use a little more ump.( I try not to use the dreaded word speed[]) Any help would be GREATLY appricated. Don