Well I broke down and bought another rifle today. It is a conical thrower, but I will bet is does a great job with sabots as well. It is made by White Rifle Company. It is a G series .504 caliber Bison. It has the black barrel and synthetic stock. Nothing fancy about this rifle, but all stories on them are.. they are great shooters. I want to put a 1X scope on this one also. Then shoot some 500 grain conicals out of it. Should be a lot of fun.