Rob, as for the Pheasant thing out here the state has a devoted a buget especially for raising and releasing birds state wide now. This season I saw and shot(at) more Pheasants than I ever have made a past effort at. NO dog til now, and I finally got my first ttwo jus this season over in the L.T Murray just wset of Wenas lake. I also got the dog into a few westside release birds just for more experience. These birds are now some of the best bred and released stock the state has ever worked with, and are a cross between "wild caught birds" and a notorious strain that's know for its running abilities and can mess up a pointing dog real qwik! I can't wait to see the numbers next year as these birds are very hardy and should survive the winter well in most Eastside wildlife areas and should help repopualte the wild stock. This program is bugeted for five years too!