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The only thing I noticed were both were hard to get down the barrel that last inch or so. I need some kind of Soft extention on my ramrod to help me along.
I use one of these in the field...
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I make a windex patch that I run after each shot while at the range. In the field I will use a spit patch if necessary. T7 in some guns does build a "crud ring" that can be a problem... windex just desolves it onto the patch and out the barrel with the patch.